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things up in the california republican convention, you see lots of energy for former president trump next week on the issue is a very different perspective. speaker emerita nancy pelosi with us in studio. thanks for watching this very special edition of the issue is here's a look at the folks who made this show possible. all. my favorite ice cream. i like anything in here. >> i'm shannon bream. buying time. congress gives the government funding for another 45 days but failed to resolve any of the major issues that led to the break of a shutdown. >> there will be no government

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shutdown. >> congress manages to put a band-aid were major differences for now. >> ensure every bit you had wit government was going to shut down. >> leaving many to wonder if hardliners will try to remove carthy as speaker. >> all he had to do was comply with the agreement he made with us in january. >> can congress overcome a bitter split between house republicans over spending for o with the government faced the risk of a short all over again in mid-november? you ask byron donalds and frenc hill, different takes on what i takes to bridge the divide. >> then. >> her integrity so like a beacon across the senate and across the country for all to see. >> remembering a trailblazer. senator dianne feinstein, the longest-serving female senator in us history. west ridge neria under joe feinstein on her legacy and the fight to fill her seat.

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and with the mounting legal problems for you senator bob menendez and for the very thin democratic senate majority. plus. >> now americans what to say cool, what is the difference between all of you. >> just days after a very fiery second presidential debate nikk haley joins us to make the case why she is the best person to challenge donald trump for the geo denomination. >> -- the gop no information. >> the national zoo prepared to say goodbye to their three gian pandas after china recalls the fuzzy diplomats. we will ask us on the panel how all of this is playing out adulation between beijing and washington continued to deteriorate. all right now on fox news sun sunday. >> hello from fox news in washington. congress narrowly avoiding a

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government shutdown. president biden setting a 45-da short-term spending bill into law just before the midnight deadline. the senate and house percolated to saturday to get that deal done. last-minute agreement comes as house republicans tried and failed to pass a separate temporary funding bill that would have contained policy items like border security and spending cuts. any moment we are bringing them to revoking congressman with opposing views on all of these deals. but first, we are joined by a shahadi. >> shannon cogan morning to you. congress once again kicking the can down the road on government funding, now to 45 days. it will keep the government funded at the fiscal year 2023 spending levels. it did that $16 billion into disaster relief. not in this solution is ukraine aid and border security, two very important topic for these sparring parties. in fact, democratic senator michael bennet help the senate vote for a few hours last night

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over the lack of ukraine fund funding, but eventually relente and cheerleaders chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell announced that they will fight for more aid in a separate measure. >> after trying to take our government hostage, magor republicans win nothing. >> there was a lot more drama over in the house, shannon pigott democrats originally trying to stall the bill, angry at the speaker kevin mccarthy he dropped the tax last-minute. look at this. capitol police are investigatin new york congressman jamaal bowman after he pulled the fire alarm during the proceedings. he claimed that it was on accident. eventually democrats health m mccarthy pass this bill. 90 republicans voted no. hardliners with this ticket to focus solely on passing a new slimmer budget. >> faitella stepash the committee resolution, so we wil have to pass another continued resolution. well, that line of thinking is like telling a crackhead that

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i'm going to give you more crac to get you off of crack. >> shannon, we start the new week here is questioned about speaker mccarthy's job. congressman matt gaetz reportedly said that he will, i fact, file a motion to vacate the speaker. shannon cogan the speaker over the last couple of days has responded to those threats by saying, bring it on. shannon. watch and see if it happens. i shaun snee reported from the hill. thank you very much for joining us cursing byron donalds out of florida. good to see you. i ask you first of all, why did you miss this one and not bode? everybody knew it was coming, it's a big deal. you put something on x formerly known as turtle -- twitter but replies a bitter pill is coming up the elevator in the capitol building to go vote because the closed the boat and because their members on the house floo who were changing their votes from yes to no. i was told that there were senators on our floor making he leadership to include the votes for the measure would have because it needed two thirds.

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the leadership new llano is a no. it was a yes, they would have held the vote open for me. they didn't pick is that simple. >> something for the president last night saying we should never been in this position the first place. just two months ago speaker m mccarthy and i responded this budget agreement to avoid precisely this type of manufactured crisis. extreme has republicans tried t walk away from the deal by demanding drastic cuts and they failed. so a couple things. first of all, which deal was in place? did the speaker keep his word with the white house, did he keep it with you, are those different things? >> what really happened here is the speaker had an agreement with us in january about pre pre-covid spending levels. the deal that was cutting the debt ceiling deal, the speaker was so multiple times myself in particular, and i told the entire leadership, you don't have the votes at that spending level from the debt ceiling de deal. there are house republicans wil not vote for that, in this one, more than house freedom caucus members. so there is never an agreement

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with the topline spending was. that is why we ended up at the situation. i will add to that that there was a measure that was produced by me and a couple other memb members. we would have cut any minimum 8 percent of the top of the federal agencies and secure the border with hr two, stopping th transition of migrants in our country is being done by joe biden. there were some house conservatives that didn't agree with that plan to get them to g with 12 appropriation bills. my concern was what you were going to see was a clean cr and unfortunately i was correct, that's exactly what happened. offer you tried to offer a substitution happy friday and - i want to play something from congressman king jeffree star house democratic leader, the to democrat. here's what he says. >> the american people have wi win -- one the extreme measure published extreme maga republicans have lost. it was a victory for the american people in a complete and total surrender by right-wing extremist who

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throughout the year have tried to hijacked the congress. >> so that language, extreme maga republicans, i am assuming he is including you in that based on your votes and things you said. >> yes. >> what do you say to that? he says you guys lost. what did you expect from what w saw play in the last few days these i'll be honest, we did no get anything out of this continued resolution. the board is still unsecured in our country. why is that? that's because joe biden and th democrats got their way to go the democrat members are very happy with this deal. i think is a terrible deal for them a people because putting this, spending down was happen. inflation is still running rampant progress not maga hulking, metropolitan, common sense. having a test having a secure border is common sense, not ma maga, democrats are extremely radical on this position so i would implore my colleagues tha whatever will happen the next 4 days, you get to stand together because at the end of the day i the democrats do not want to secure our border, do not want

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to get the fiscal health of thi nation back on track. they do not care about what is affecting the men and women in our country, regardless of thei politics. do you think it will sit together? do you think the speaker is in trouble? >> i think he is in trouble because there has to be some level of leadership in the chamber. i'll be totally blocked, there are a lot of trust issues in my chamber right now where people feel on both sides of our conference that everybody is no going to hold hands and continu to do this work together. it was indicative also of what happened yesterday on the floor where it took more democrats to pass this deal to keep government open. of the same thing happened on the debt deal. but at the end of the day you have to find a way to come together instead focus is a conference. that's what i want to do. but security has to be the number 1 thing that we find for going forward. we must secure our border. joe biden simply won't do it. he wants this catastrophe which is affecting all of our cities, and the only people standing in his way are house republicans.

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we are going to the court recor items about that later in the show but let me ask you if ther is a motion to vacate you vote against the speaker and you think democrats would help you do that? >> frankly, i don't know right now because there is a lot of stuff going on in the building behind us. what democrats do i can't speak to right now. they don't even want to take care of the key thing this country, securing our border an frankly getting our government just do its job. >> good to see you, thanks for popping in. julius now well congressman whe she was on the house financial services committee, congressman thank you for being with us to go out to play something from one of the folks who voted no yesterday, one fella member who said you get this wrong, congressman tim burchett. >> wieffer the advocated our duties. we decided to kick the can down the road for 45 more days. and sweetened the pot, put some extra stuff and therefore some people so they would go for it. and that's just not what leadership should do. >> says not what leadership should do and you heard from

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congressman blount springs that leadership got this wrong. it's good to be with you, great to hear my good friend byron donalds' remarks, i voted for byron donalds continued resolution to secure the border and, spending 8 percent. i thought it was an outstanding proposal for a stopgap spending measure, including chaining something you haven't talked about which is that tooth is a spending is mandatory spending. and mr. donald's' resolution ha put together with his group als had a commission to reform mandatory spending programs something that is a much more big fiscal problem for our country. so look, i supported that and i failed because all the democrat democratic -- voted against it plus 21 republicans. dick and perkins tell us they wouldn't vote for any continuin resolution period. they prefer the government essentially the shut down while we continued the appropriations bills. i think that is the wrong approach.

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we have passed 70 percent of spending across the house floor. the senate has passed nine. this four weeksville let us bring the rest of those individual appropriations bills to the floor that are substantially lower spending levels than joe biden and kevin mccarthy's that ceiling deal. and they have important conservative policy riders that turn back the buying and nancy pelosi policies of the last two years is given there is so much internal friction with the gop, people feel betrayed, you heard what congressman donald said, h is not sure how he would vote right now the speaker motion came to pull him out. you understand the skepticism went look at 12 appropriations bills and 45 days with that as backdrop, and don't -- mcwer they think we may just be in th same place and 44 days pedemont what i would say we wouldn't be. i understand the trust writes that byron made, and i think that there are people inside ou conference freshman, sophom*ore, and other members have concerns

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about trust in the system pick up we made a commitment to do 1 appropriations bills, and even tried to do that since july. we get one passenger i and others pass this week. we have now approved in the house with the house republican vote, no democratic votes basically, 72 percent or so of all federal spending. so over the next four weeks we have to prove the other 20 20 percent of federal spending. it is not all 12. >> right. >> it is a subset of that in th senate has done nine, and this will hopefully get them into th game and get their work done as well. market and that 20 percent is very sticky. that is where the need to becom very difficult. i want to ask you about congres ben bowman. there is a still picture of him. he admits that he did pull a fire alarm yesterday just sort of a chaotic time of the hill that led to evacuation. he says this: i activated the fire alarm mistakenly thinking it would open the door to go he was trying to get through those doors. i want to be very clear, this

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was not me in any way going to delay any votes. he said pulling that he thought would open those doors. do you accept his investigation? will there be an investigation? >> with all my kids in elementary school and to safety taonga they will have to pull a fire alarm and what happens whe you do it in a public building. i think it is just emblematic o the fact that democrats can't figure out how to cut spending and have a right approach to government. they can't even run a fire ala alarm, so i look forward to the investigation. we will see the full videotape. we will see what is up to. either way it doesn't look good for him democrats are celebrating this morning. you got congressman alexandria ocasio-cortez tweeting this lat yesterday: "here's what went down, we just will make a claim 45 decommit extension, stripped the gop's earlier 3 percent cut social security administration et cetera, staved off last-minute anti-immigrant hijinks and averting shutdown for now. people will get paychecks and ntt threw a tantrum on the way out win-win." if they are celebrating what happened yesterday, how is that

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a win for you? >> is a win because we are finishing our commitment we mad to america and 2022 that we bring up individual spending bills, we would debate them on the floor with an open long-standing rule process. we would get conservative spending levels that cut spending in 234 over 2023. that we would get people back t work in this country by any wor requirements to the welfare programs, which present biden came down in the debt ceiling deal. so what we're doing is you want to lock in the conservative win in the debt ceiling deal with lower spending more conservativ policies, get some help from that in the senate. but the only way we do that, shannon, is to pass those bills and that's the debate. the debate has conference isn't whether we should pass were not at lower spending levels, the debate was, should we do it while the government is shut down. and i don't think that paying border agents, not pay the man and woman in uniform for four weeks while we complete debatin bills for the last 20 percent o

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spending, is smart government. plus -- plus -- moody's this week announced that they may consider downgrading the us government's credit rating. and we saw the ten year treasur rate go to for daca 5 percent. these are warning signs that we need to do is mandatory spendin programs and we need to go back to prepandemic spending levels that is a debate we need to hav while we secure the border. all those are priorities, and those are shared by all republicans in the house. >> very difficult decisions to come, congressman french hill, thanks for stopping in. you bet, shannon p up next to major events in the senate this week as well is now senator joe manchin joins us in the bribery allegation against richard senator bob menendez and mounting calls for his resignation. and we also remember the histor making life and legacy of diann feinstein. megawatts of power, rails and open road, and essential services of every kind.

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>> senator dianne feinstein die in her home in washington, d.c. this week at the age of 90 to she was the longest-serving female senator in american history. her final months were marked by failing health and my folks frankly jockeying for her seats. we are live once the white hous know how the president, resembles that of the aisle are remembering her legacy and talk about what comes next. hello collin lucas peter shane les trent former house speaker nancy pe the casket. president biden offered his condolences. she was an historic figure, a trailblazer for woman and a great friend. majority leader chuck schumer and other senators warned feinstein at the capitol. >> so today we grieve.

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we look at that desk and we kno what we have lost the feinst feinstein's death means the democrats now have an even slimmer majority, 50-49, giving essential leverage to embattled democratic senator bob menendez was charged along with his wife with every allegations to enric fugitive businessmen, and the egyptian government. john fetterman was the first of 31 democratic senators to call for menendez to resign. >> he got to go. he's got to go there, i can't imagine, you know, how he could possibly explain any of that kind of a thing. according to the indictment, senator mendendez accepted hundreds of thousands of dollar in bribes and cash and gold ba

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bars. shannon. >> all right, lucas tomlinson a the white house, thank you luc lucas. tritomine out joe manchin, welcome back to fox news sunday. let's talk first your thoughts on the loss of senator feinst feinstein. >> such a beautiful person, really was. and i felt i was embarrassed by some of the more colleagues asking her a month or two or three ago that she should step aside and this and that, there' not a person that served more honorably be then dianne feinstein peter lizon personett trying to bring people together than dianne feinstein. i was there. i had 12-13 years with her, and i could not have had a better role model, you know. you might not have agreed and our politics might've been different but she was so compassionate, so understanding said, "i know you can't get there, joe. i, diane i can meet you halfway i can't go all the way there, and you would find a way to mo move. that's what it is all about how do you find a way to serve people of this great country an also the people that you represent please mark what is consistently what we hear from both sides of the aisle in the wake of her passing through

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let's talk about senator melendez, you're not one of those who called for him to resign. candy serve effectively? the great group that's up for a senate democrats who stepped forward, it is more there were about what happens to his seat next year, or are they outraged by what they saw with these allegations? >> he is very effective, he is very strong person, and he spok to the caucus the other day pickup that was unbelievable th strength to go up there in fron of your colleagues and say, let me tell you something, i have seen every one of you, everyone of you, speak eloquently about the rule of law, and how we are so different than anyplace in the world. i'm asking for is to be treated the same. nothing more, nothing less. everyone is innocent until proven guilty. let me defend myself and that's all we ask for. and i can't disagree with that piece of you in the legal process to play out. it should be i asked you a few times what your 2024 plans. many have. are you going to run for senate or run third-party? you said this week you hadn't thought about what he would vot for president by this time, which a lot of us thought was a

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bit difficult to believe. how much me that have to do wit the idea that you didn't get what you thought you would get in exchange for your vote on th inflation reduction act? he said this week, "instead of embracing the all of the above energy bill that was signed int law, this demonstration and onc again decided to put their radical political agenda over american energy security and th american people will pay the price political you have said the americanization has broken the law, said that they lied to the american people. did they lie to you? well, the are trying everything they can to implement a piece of deflation they never passed. and they've been taken to court twice. you got the pipeline and now th leasing in the gulf pekar and i would quote you a republican colleagues have said about the inflation reduction act in thei brief supporting the oil companies who basically sued this administration for taking 6 million acres off the lease, not the bill.

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they said this: the ira is a bounce, diverse, complex and overlapping considerations including growth in conserva conservation, domestic needs an go positioning, and security diplomacy." this is my republican and the leaders of both the house and senate. understand it is a balance bill. and we are producing more energ today than we ever have, more oracle for a 6 billion barrels this year. morganza natural gas, 37 trillion cubic feet. we have never done that before. and we are producing more lng t help our friends and allies overseas? are you getting what you thought you would get when it comes to electric vehicles and battery production and bringing manufacturing back to the us? >> as quickly as it is supposed to be. their base, breaking every bond in the bill to go that bill is very explicit we had to do in order to bring any factoring back and not be reliant on foreign energy supplies, such a china. and are trying to put more vehicles out and basically what the market will digest right no or want, and it is wrong pekar it's a bad energy policy pekar we are trying to keep the guardrails on. here's the thing: they cannot do what they want to do because

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the bill prohibits. you can't just go with all renewables if you are not producing the energy the countr needs. we appreciate cleaner than anywhere in the world. why can't we walk and chew gum at the same time? >> well, new liberty to sort ou if the administration is not what you thought you were getting the exchange there. that has probably pretty, fair to say, in west virginia. should you choose to run again there are conversation about ho much that will impact things. there is one outlet that has said it has been a few disapproval numbers to the eigh you're one of the most unpopula senators in america. not sure how that factors into you as well. i don't think that is quite accurate as i don't think you'r likable. now whether people want to go and vote for you it was really we sought to have that conversation. >> people of virginia see all the words for that piece of investigation with no investments. where berkshire hathaway coming in and basically foreign energy. we are going to be building better storage of 1,00 1,000 megawatts are things we never had.

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plus we are producing more cold and we had a better and clearer than anywhere in the world. we are producing mvp, 2 bill 2 billion cubic feet more will go to the pipeline helping the people in the northeast pekar everything we're doing, and basically this bill is a beltzville that has given us opportunities. we have never had this before. so basically people have been demonizing it. but when my own republican kallie cart and say this is a balanced piece of legislation, that is good for america, they said that in their brief, and they win they warning courts so we will see what you take it to the west virginia voters or whether to go to a third party run we had this conversation speaker here's what form obama can be measured, sena said this week talking about these third-party runs. >> you and i remember in 2,000 in florida where rust and again the florida presidency to georg bush. cedric has had that history and they will understand that a vot for third parties is a vote for donald trump, i hope. >> he said he will not do this as a spoiler, not the goal you

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have please i think jim we forgot that basically it was ross perot that elected bill clinton. so if you want to look at it that way, the evaluation, why not have options? people aren't set aside right now and why not have options. a lot of people like you as an option. >> mm-hmm peace and use it once you make a decision, a target will be in your back to your waiting to the right time pekar the fact is the county will now start working against you pekar what is the time i? do you have any announcements t make this morning? >> not this morning. let me just say this: i'll do it. i am more concerned about the country right now. what you seen the theatrics hav played out yesterday and up until yesterday, that's ridiculous. but could a president mansion fix that? >> the bottom line is you have to work in a bipartisan way. democracy is still an experi experiment. it was never intended for an autocracy or one side to rule. you have to work to go to kevin mccarthy, i praise kevin m mccarthy for what he did yesterday. he finally realized you can't reason with unreasonable people with the extremes pekar i hope these people in the who they

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represented, i hope their constituents finally say enough is enough, we want people that at least keep our government running and moving in the right direction. we can do that. and i think, yes, i can bring i together pekar that's all i've ever done but there's other people, not just me, there's a lot of people based in the centerleft center-right that's how it does work. and you said yesterday move forward. >> the uc president biden in that place. >> well, he used to be. >> so you don't think either on of them are there or the alternative futures market we are hoping maybe they will come back to rationale thinking that my k doesn't work pushing everything to the extremes. this country does not run on th fringes. it never has. anticancer now here, so they ar ever going to either going to come back or we're going to bring it back. >> what's your timeline? i sai earlier if something like you i would have to go there is no primary school just go to will for me -- you just going to foray. >> it's exciting to watch a ver

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entertaining as far as me watching. and these people, i know everybody, so we will see what happens there. people look at me as that's joe manchin the democratic or that so-and-so the republican pekar than ever -- that's just romanchuk pekar he is going to be very independent and how he has always voted for 47 years representing the people of west virginia. i'll do everything in my part everything in my power to make sure they have representation i a balanced way. if i can go home explain it, i can vote for it. i cannot explain it to my friends and colleagues in west virginia i can't go forward. you can put a gun to my head, i'm not going to vote for. >> we will do that, but we will proceed to come back and gives answer before the end of the year. i will do that. thanks, good to see a sliver next we talked with nikki haley about a run for the white house. accusations that she will not take a clear position on abortion, and asked where we should draw the line on us taxpayers financial commitments to ukraine, next.

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we will not stop fighting for economic and security assistanc for ukraine. >> i'm confident this it will pass further urgent assistance to ukraine later this year. so the senate majority and minority leaders agree about their desire for more aid for ukraine pekar despite their

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efforts ukraine money made it t this continuing resolution bill pick up that phone just now for 45 days. resistance to billions more dollars of ukraine aid has been growing among some republicans, primarily in the house. we are the strong support for keeping that in flowing is ambassador nikki haley out ther campaigning to go i talked to the gop presidential hopeful about that and more this week weekend. so we are here in washington against this backdrop of fights or funding, you know, keeping the government going but also how much the us government taxpayer here will continue to spend on issues in ukraine peka is one area there is some doubt among gop candidates on the field of the sexual foreign policy. here's what gop senator rand paul says about this pekar he says we have no extra money to send to ukraine pekar are different this year wicksteed one deca $5 trillion. borrowing money from china to send to ukraine makes no sense.

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what do you think it makes sens to change, you know, it is interesting that they give you that false choice, and this is why i think it's important for americans to know the hard trut to go congress has only delivered a bill on time four times in 40 years. think about that. that is one of their only jobs, four times in 40 years. then you like and we are having to shut down, or do we do it, d we not do it? reality is republicans and democrats, all of them, having spending taxpayer dollars in a ridiculous way. they just took a budget from last year, and more to it and keep going to go the false narrative of we can either pay for certain things were ukraine is wrong. what ukraine is, is national security. now i will put the blame on joe biden. joe biden and the president is always supposed to show leadership on why things are funded. joe biden has done a horrific job of reexplaining to the american people and making a transparent of where this money goes. the fact that this is actually going to prevent war, the fact that this is only three deca 5

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5 percent of our own national budget, three deca 5 percent of our national defense budget, th fact that this goes back to 11 european countries are spending more than us. but what is this going to keep it is going to weapons pekar it will replenish our stockpile, make sure ukraine has what they need, and it's going to make sure that if they win, it's not a win for russia or china but i preventing more so it does not go to poland and other nato countries. >> to be clear, we have the financial house that is out of order in washington. was at home could run our budgets this way. government cannot get away with this at the state level and you can't print eczema or go to further doubt on a number of issues. so the fact is, we are spending money, taxpayer dollars, on ukraine and we are borrowing in oc from china from other places that do not have our best interests at heart. so that is part of the calculation, the fact that we are taking a debt to another country in the surface of what we can send to ukraine.

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>> you know, it is and we are $32 trillion in debt, having to borrow money just to make our interest payments. china owns so that that. you know, if you are going to look at that, when we look at why republicans put in seven an a $4 billion on pet projects an earmarks in the budget and democrats put in $28 billion. water will get all the things w don't need to depend on. it is why i think we need to go back to a budget that starts at zero, says what do we have to have, and then work our way out pekar and also why i think you need to put more money in taxpayer's pockets. i want to eliminate the federal gas and diesel tax. i want to reduce taxes on middle-class americans and make our tax structure safer i want to make the small business tax cuts permanent. they only made them temporary, let's make them permanent. i think a lot of people have vilified the freedom caucus in this shutdown conversation, let's be clear what the freedom caucus is really trying to do. they are trying to cut spending. let's go back and have spending caps we make sure that we never overspend, cut up credit cards, quit borrowing a percent of our

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budget is interest. i will stop the spending, stop the borrowing and eliminate errors and will eliminate any spending bill that does not tak us back to pre-covid levels. that's how we will get our country back on track. it will be a lot of work for president haley to do on that front. now we will see how the financial house will shake out. i want to talk about a piece in politico, a very lengthy piece in their magazine, saying that you essentially talk around tough topics. they quote when anna saying she will adapt to whatever benefits are. it follows on the heels of a podcast with the new york times columnist who said for someone who makes a big deal about bein straight with voters, haley is awfully cagey, uses kind of vague language, trying hard to weekend both pro-choice and antiabortion voters at the same time. you have said is not free to talk, and we talked about this, until voters about the possibility of a federal ban on abortion because you say the numbers are simply not there. but, desantis, senator scott,

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they know the numbers are not there either, but are willing t have the conversation. here is senator scott. >> i like mickey -- nikki. i wish you the same kind of candidate and she was as a person. now she has kind of slipped between the bid. you really can't trust her. she will not turn myself and ro desantis training on the debate stage for ischemic limit on natural limit on saving life. she won't do that. >> if you had the numbers, when you commit to that type of federal ban change yes. and i said that many times, shannon, pick up the goal was how do we save as many babies a possible and support as many moms as possible. when stores are political or ne york times, when they say that, it is because they think they can't push me in a leyna. i believe what i believe, and i say what i say. i have been a realist pekar in order to pass that bill you hav to have 60 senate votes. you might have 45 black senat

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senators. i refuse to demonize the issue of abortion. i refuse to have people divided on it. what i am saying is -- ip but i is one of those issues that in this country people are truly divided on. i mean, there is no way to have people sit around and sing kumbaya over the issue of abortion. maybe about the other part of the conversation for funding woman, helping them figure things out, but not on the issu itself of whether that procedur should be available and who should pay for it. >> mike grella, i mean, than, shannon, why do have some republican, cat and independent woman coming to my side on this? it is because i have said, yes, i am unapologetically pro-lifevideo i will not judge people for being pro-choice. in a situation of a federal law as he was right it went to the hands of the people. i think is right that states ar deciding pekar but if they are going to talk about a federal law, let's be realistic that is what i am, i am a realist pekar let's be realistic. ongoing divide people on something that doesn't look possible. anything that we can agree on. that's why i said if we can ban late term abortions, if we can

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encourage adoption to make sure people don't go to jail or get the death penalty for an abortion, let's be realistic on it and when we can find consist on a at six morgans and that supports more moms. that's my goal at the end of th day but i will not hate over, i will make sure we are learning about and that we humanize the situation into something would have been a bit less love has been between you and vivek ramaswamy on the debate stage. you are clashed repeatedly and that happened again this week leading to 1 of the most talked about moments in the debate. it was this. >> i honestly, every time i hea you i feel a little bit dumber for what you say peterka, but before he is running against y you, you did write a blurb for his book, woke.in which he says he urges to lift up on a rather than to pin ourselves against one another for his termination of honesty, intellect, and foresight are exactly what we need to overcome our challenges in the years ahead pixel you're right about him then or are you write about him now? well look i think i always praise people when they deserve to be praised and i hate people when they

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deserve to be hit. the book that he wrote i supported it, i helped him. he asked me for help with, i wa happy to do it. i will help anybody that needs help and it was a good book. i think the things he is saying now and he's running for president is very different tha that pick up the idea that he i san marco because 150 million americans on tik-tok, even though it's dangerous i'm going to get on anyway is not -- ip let me stop you real quick. i want to play something that h just said about this issue of tik-tok, and get you to respond. >> i do think it's a bit to correct this hypocritical the other candidates were criticizing me on stage, even a their own kids adult children, are on tik-tok today. so i think we have to recognize the reality of where young voters are. >> all right, kedon a me but is he referring to your kids, just my son is not on tik-tok. my daughter was on tik-tok, up until about 2020, and i think she put something in her bachelorette party. but, look, she is 25 years old pick my job is to educate.

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miami center going make my kids that are adult is able to educate and say why is him jumping on their and making people think it's okay? being very careful about how people talk about tik-tok. this is the change, his party who is doing espionage. they don't just put things on your phone in and in a they get access to your contacts, access to financial data. they get access to your e-mails and they spread different dangerous things. right now they are spreading things on how to use steroids and things like that for workin out. these are dangerous apps. and what i will do is keep telling every american, don't let your kids be on a educate them, tell them why it's dangerous. and i will keep saying that. i think tik-tok is a.j. sanders because 150 million our audit i mutual because it is politicall popular. i think that's wrong. we have so much more to discuss so please come back but we leav it there for today. ambassador, governor haley, thanks so much for your time. thanks so much.

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>> what's going on is unsustainable to is a crisis. is chaotic. and it must stop. texas looking governor greg abbott in new york city this week calling for tough action o the border. he said the migrant crisis facing new york is nothing compared to what is happening i the lone star state on a daily basis. time now for our sunday group. julie manchester and national political reporter for the hill. fox news senior political analyst ron williams. samantha was the jason rantz show and author of the brand-ne book "what's killing america," and heritage foundation president kevin roberts. welcome to all of you, let's talk about this border. this have blown up to be -- it had been a it is prog problem for a long time and have confirmation it hit in septembe encounters, the highest on record.

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not a good look for the demonstration especially when they are being called up democrats. i think steinegger look for congress or the us government. obviously we have a problem and we should solve it. and we have the capacity to solve it one of the troubling things to me as we look at the pictures and we talk about the number of incursions, number of people crossing the border. but i hope you saw this week those pictures of children having to go through barbed wi wire? what is going on in america? that's troubling. i don't care where you are on the political spectrum, you can say we are better than this, we can solve this. and you focus on the idea that many of these from her children are coming through the jungle and the berrien gap? they are putting their entire lives, children, women, moms at risk. why? because they are fleeing oppression, they are fleeing miles, they are fleeing economi harm. and they're saying they want to be in america. okay, we have to order that progress. and we have the capacity, but what we have seen under george w. bush, under barack obama,

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under donald trump, and now under joe biden, is the failure of the congress and the administration to say here's th deal. let's compromise. let's fix this problem. >> yeah, they haven't got it done but jason allowed people think there are magnus erick tsang 36 they're pulling people here as well. and his or her beings are going through horrendous situations, some of them paying with their lives trying to get her teeth are coming here soon to them that if you make that journey once you get this country illegally are basically going t stay here. and when you tell folks that, i does not matter the country the are going through. to them they are saying is wort it at the end of the day. and rather than make it pretty clear that michael you are not going to get a free pass to com into this country, we are doing the exact opposite pykus all those images, all of those journeys that is the result of failed policy coming from the biden administration. what did that happen under trum and obama was all these people coming here and then staying here. there were record deportations, the wikileaks under obama and i

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remember progressiva really upset. and yet what happened? here democrats who had control of the house with the senate an the white house who are currently complained about, we well, we need to do something o immigration. okay, do something with immigration. they don't want to secure the border. analysts are we to do that you are not going to get republican the buy-in p kevin is that fair? the book is also controlled house, senate and white house and have not gotten this fixed piece it is fair. but let's be honest, jason thod right that the person who initiated this is the president of the united states and the most humane thing that we can do, my friend juan, is to make sure that the president says, don't come to this country because the southern border is closed. if he does that, then we also know that have been 218 votes this year in the u.s. house to intimate that figure now we nee some republicans in the senate and if you democrats do the sa same. >> how much of a headache it is for the white house when they got so many other things, revelations about hunting a

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impeachment moving forward potentially, the economy not looking good, full of people saying people are very unhappy with how they are playing out for them too. this is just another visual and we were looking at light pitch of the reality of what is not working. >> is certainly a headache and you have had republicans to bea up on democrats for this for quite some time. i would argue back in 22 along republicans were trying to do this midterm elections obviousl the issue of abortion, the overturning of roe v. wade sort of trump that in terms of voter minds when they went to the mailbox to make their decisions. right now i think you're going to see a lot of republican and conservative candidates police on ads. you're going to hear presenter candidates whoever the nominee is on the republicans i can tal about this. so it was biden in a defensive position. and we have someone like league city mayor eric adams, someone who was called himself a biden democrat, criticizing the president on this, it just creates more of a headache for the administration. let me make sure we go back to our news at the top of the show. nearly over this disaster of a shutdown there were those on th

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who thought good can come from and to go good conversations an difficult conversations can com from a but don't hear from this morning congressman matt basu about it; is stick to the promises made to their group that he would file this motion to vacate this morning it sound like he will do it trigger kev kevin, the speaker survived? >> to me but he also may not trigger and the real tragedy from the policy and ideas standpoint is that for two week you are having a conversation that, in fact, this conversatio about encouraging one part of immigration reform, republicans came together on that, while there are good members who apparently are not friends with lincoln mccarthy any longer, and while it looks like we are going to interface that is a lord of the flies phase propose in part the american people wan them to just get their work do done. and anchored them on behalf of the entire heritage underpriced to be focused on policies and ideas. >> who thinks he does or does i survive? does he make it through this motion to vacate? >> if you pull the fire alarm before the voters make i think

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you can probably save himself a a boy, speaking of lord of the flies and chaos, we had a littl bit of that yesterday. let me get this because i talke with senator mancz about this and we keep pushing him are you going to do a third-party run? away from james carver this wee worried about all kinds of things that could hurt democr democrats. let's assume the indexing was november the third of this year. and they said the candidates of joe biden, a democrat, donald trump the republican, joe manchin and the whole goal goal labels and cornell west. trump would be a betting favorite. if i told you, i would give you even money, you would not take that bet. all right? and so somebody better wake the ( bleep ) up. >> oh, boy. wanda, how worried are you? >> you know, i think it definitely changes the dynamic. but the point is that just as you heard from carvel, i think there are a lot of democrats wh

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understand the threat, and understand what has taken place before with ralph nader, as you mentioned in your interview wit joe manchin. he came back and mentioned ross perot. but the fact is here, in 2024, next year, it will really be something that weighs against joe biden, the incumbent. and i think lots of democrats would be energized by that dynamic. and also, you know, given what we saw this week, given what is going on with kevin mccarthy, you have to say there is like 1 republicans maybe two dozen republicans go who delight in chaos and breaking apart the us government so it can't pay tax taxes, and can control the airports. i mean, camp taylor soldiers. people are going to say, no, is not just an ordinary election. >> yeah. and is why joe manchin says tha he is apparently keeping his options open. all right, we have a lot more t talk about the panel, so go too far. julie krow you are going to kiggans optical up next to why

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>> pain enthusiast that come every week, every day, it will take some time. this is only an national zoo absent star attraction is the giant pandas, centering to the china early december this morning there is a visitors court and is refusing to keep the deal to keep the painters stateside. this comes as relations between beijing and washington remain tense a pendulum spread across the country are traveling to dc to get a phylograms. by the way, if you want to see the pain of diffely, it's free, but you have to stop and get a pastor gradually, not getting a pass is the ongoing real manish of looking into what are that's what our relationship is with china now, and where can possibly go. how would you rate it right now? >> i rated like a d potentially. i wouldn't say it's failing thi silly, because there are effort to get biden and president xi,

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the chinese president talking pickup we know that you s & j diplomats met in washington thi week. then again, yesterday you have the change government: the us the manipulator of lies picks are clearly a lot of tension. >> many fred emmings, heavy on the enderly park precaution did you know has us-china talks gam these talks that are ongoing, the ucd two world leaders getting together, in person, anytime soon to change yes, and unfortunately. and i say that because china is the greatest adversary the united states has ever had in its history and so and a plus credle be president biden not counseling the president xi jinping was he will want to say sir you are not welcome in the soil to meet these certain criteria. until and unless that happens and is pandas are in canada, th united states is going to be playing second fiddle to a very powerful china. ten seconds before we get cut off. and it really paid it was such big deal. soon as i got here, everyone wa smiling. i will put an expert in my book

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a chapter about just pandas. >> i think it is a sign that we are in a cold war with china, but don't forget china is struggling economically. ukraine, take money away from ukraine, you are making the chinese happy. again to defeat the chinese defeat the russians in the same flow. >> koekkoek a thank you very much. that's it. take you for joining us. i'm shannon bream. have a wonderful week. we will see you next fox news sunday

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